OT: Vista and DRM

Date : Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:46:53 -0500
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Robert Moodie" <robertm(at)hybride.com>
Subject : OT: Vista and DRM
Title: Re: Vista and XSI?
Hola Jordi,
 
As much as I completely agree with you, Apple's record on DRM isn't much better: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001557.php
 
 
Here's a good report on Vista:
 
"A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection"
 
I guess the only good thing about this mess is people are now becoming aware.
 
_rob
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jordibares
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Vista and XSI?

Personally I feel very strongly about the DRM and ?trusted? computing and have to say it is enough as a concept to scare the sh$t out of me.

Anyone planning to install Vista should have a proper read to those many documents found about DRM and what Micro$oft is trying to do with the help of the MPAA, RIAA and the like.

jb


On 30/1/07 12:28, "Kim Aldis" <XSI(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:

Equally, I shoved it onto a Dell laptop I wasn?t using about 6 months or so ago, RC1 I think it was. It installed fast and easy, ran with no trouble at all. I used it as a second machine for a couple of weeks without any real problems other than XSI seemed not to recognize any mouse clicks on the OK button, but then that was before there?d really been any mention of xsi on Vista. All the drivers seemed to work, which was surprising. Performance was about the same as it was under XP, memory footprint I didn?t look at too closely but I was shoving some usually big scenes through it and it never complained. In the end the laptop got sold otherwise I?d have probably left it on and continued to use it quite happily. It was fine, a bit annoying with all the dumb new security stuff asking you stupid questions every time it wants to make a move, but it did what it said on the tin and made a pleasant enough change of view.
 
I doubt I?ll be putting it on anything else of mine any time soon.  I?m not sure of the point of splashing out that much money on something that does nothing all that differently to what I already have. It?s also worth noting that every release of anything for the past ten years has been problematic to some degree for enough people to make it a probably unwise move for a few months yet. How problematic depending on your kit, your experience and probably your frame of mind at the time but for what it gives you, is it really worth the risk?
 

From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Wessam Bahnassi
Sent: 30 January 2007 15:03
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Vista and XSI?
 
I installed Vista Ultimate x64 on my home machine and I had to remove it right away afterwards. My machine is not super (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 3800+, with Geforce6600) but still... XSI gave me a warning during installation that I have no OpenGL driver, and later, I was lucky and managed to run it only once, and the viewports performance was horrible. After that I failed to run it again thanks to SPM (I don?t know how it ran the first time).
On another note, the OpenGL driver in 3dsMax was giving a lot of garbage also? This is using the latest public nvidia drivers that I downloaded three days ago?
I?m not saying it?s a bad OS, but I prefer to give it sometime instead of being on the front line of people suffering compatibility issues that would go with time.
 
Wessam Bahnassi
Microsoft DirectX MVP,
Programmer
Electronic Arts
--
'Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand'

From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of jordibares
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:43 AM
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>; Marco Spasiano
Subject: Re: Vista and XSI?

Man, that is funny.

jb


On 30/1/07 11:21, "Marco Spasiano" <spasiano(at)playstos.com> wrote:
Hi, take a look to that:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/microsoft-vista-faster-on-a-mac-pro-than-apples-own-os-x-232402.php

Marco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: Vista and XSI?


>I can only agree :) And running bootcamp on a macbook pro works great
> if you need windows for some applications (such as xsi). Or.... you
> can install Linux, some distros actually supports the MacBook Pro now.
> And then you can have both OSX and Linux.
>
> Windows.... "archive to bin"
>
> /stefan
>
>
> On 1/30/07, jordibares <jordibares(at)the-mill.com> wrote:
>>
>>  If you are planning to use a windows based box MAKE SURE IS NOT VISTA.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/07/technology/Reality_check_Vista.biz2/index.htm?cnn=yes
>>
>>
>>  The implications are huge in terms of drivers/support for old hardware,
>> memory requirements for the OS, and IMO one of the worsts things we are
>> facing nowadays, Digital Restriction Manager.
>>
>>  To learn more
>>
>>  http://polishlinux.org/gnu/drm-vista-and-your-rights/
>>
>>
>>  My suggestion for a laptop? Buy a Mac with Bootcamp so you can run OS X
>> and
>> Windows XP, the performance is impressive and there are some benchmarks
>> between Macs and Dells running XSI, Maya, Photoshop and seems they are
>> faster than comparable models.
>>
>>  Just make sure is NOT VISTA.
>>
>>  jb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 29/1/07 19:35, "Byron Nash" <byronnash(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm in the market for a laptop(not to drudge up the old "laptops"
>> thread).
>> As of today, everything Dell sells will come with MS Vista. Does anyone
>> know
>> if XSI runs (well) on it? Also, is Vista 64bit? therefore allowing one to
>> run XSI 64bit?
>>
>>  Another question: I looked at the recommended hardware list for XSI
>> mobile
>> workstations. It's pretty small. I also noticed that a lot of you are
>> running lappys with graphics cards not on the list. I'm looking into
>> Dell's
>> mostly, so Inspirons, M90/65 and XPS are on the research list. As long as
>> I
>> upgrade from the built in graphics controller to GeForce, Quadro, or
>> Radeon
>> I should be able to run XSI, correct??
>>
>>
>
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