Re: Vista and XSI?

["peter boeykens" <peter_b(at)skynet.be>]

> I know I'll probably get flamed too for this but here it goes:
>
> That's precisely it. They're is no clear distinction what you're buying 
> when you're buying a CD or DVD. Ask the record or film companies what 
> you're buying when your buying a CD or DVD and they'll tell you you're 
> buying the medium (CD or DVD) along with the right to watch or listen to 
> it privately when ever you want. Which means you paid for the Copyright 
> and that you also paid the artist/staff that worked on that medium.

Your argument stands: you bought the rights, and the seller should replace 
damaged media at mininal cost (printing, shipping and handling).
In my experience, several valid possibilities are available, in order for 
legal customers to enjoy their purchased music.
And none of that is being conspired against by micro$oft and major record 
companies.

Some major companies (EMI for instance as far as I know) do have a policy 
for replacing damaged CD's, but it surely isnt common practice.
I have had defect CDs exchanged for free or reimbursed  by my record shop, 
and they in return with the distributor.
But that's only within a short period after purchase.
"backup for personal use" seems a reasonable and practical solution to me: 
you are legally allowed to copy and rip your music, and use that in order to 
preserve the originals.
I've even had copy protected CD's that were very effectively impossible to 
copy, except by using the supplied software on the CD, that kept count and 
allowed for 3 copies.

If only things worked as well for DVD's I would see no reason for 
complaining.


> Now what happens when your CD or DVD doesn't play anymore (like that old 
> Joshua Tree album of mine - thank god I ripped it in mp3) because it's 
> been listened too too many times. I'm willing to pay again 1$-2$ for the 
> medium (which should be enough to pay for medium, printing, case, 
> pamphlet, and even for transport -  I don't see why I should pay for extra 
> marketing since that already worked with me) to have a new one since I've 
> already bought the Copyrights to that album. Now why won't they give me a 
> new Joshua Tree album. And now I hear you: Whould you get a new car for a 
> rebate when your old one doesn't work anymore? The fact is it's not the 
> same thing. I never bought a Copyright on a car. And since they're telling 
> me I bought the rights to listen to the album, I just want my rights back! 
> That's all. So why should I pay the full price again since I've already 
> paid for the rights? I know the price of the media but isn't the rights 
> worth anything?
>
> my 2 cents
>
> niko
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> Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
> > > The issue is fair use. We want to use music / video we purchase in ways 
> > > that WE decide. We want to use it on devices WE want to use it on. We 
> > > want to be able to make a legal backup copy. We want to be able to play 
> > > our video / music 5 or 10 years from now.
> > >
> > > DRM is not the answer. It prevents to much fair use. Anyway, the record 
> > > companies just want *control* they want to decide who is the next hot 
> > > band. They don't want the people to decide these things...
> >
> > The issue is not fair use at all, it's about the human nature
> > of not wanting to pay for anything.  It's the difficulty of putting value 
> > on something that isn't physical. The vast majority of people do not care 
> > about buy legit software/music if they can get it otherwise easily.
> >
> > If you pay 10$ to see a movie in the theater, you do not have infinit 
> > rights to see the movie again or keep a so-call 'backup' copy of the 
> > movie.  After your 10$ if up, it's finished, people get that. If you want 
> > to build a record collections over years, you can buy them on physical 
> > media.  Even so, physical media degrades
> > and formats change.  Nothing is infinitely long-lasting.  Apparently
> > CD-R could last as little as 5 years!
> >
> > I see a lot of people complain about perhaps having to buy a 12$ iTune 
> > album again in 10 years. These people will also buy an 8$ coffee at 
> > starbuck that will give them pleasure for 10
> > minutes.  I think that 12$ album paid itself long ago.
> > The perceived value difference between hardware and software is 
> > out-of-whack, for everyone myself included.
> >
> >
> >
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