Re[2]: real world camera

Date : Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:39:01 +0100
To : Francois Lord <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : Frank Lenhard <franky(at)ixdream.com>
Subject : Re[2]: real world camera
that would be great Francois!

the session with the director was yesterday and the client was impressed
by the speed we could figure out camera angles in real world measurements,
shifting set pieces around and compose a previz of a shot that will
costs them quite some money.

thanks a lot everyone who helped me out here on short notice! you
guys are awsome.


ciao
franky


Thursday, February 1, 2007, 4:42:59 PM, you wrote:

FL> Yeah, I should fix that some day.

FL> Frank Lenhard wrote:
>> thanks a lot.
>> i put these numbers into the film aperature size and i get the same
>> FoV as with the plugin. but the bonus is that i can set the focal length
>> directly in real world measurements inside the xsi camera.
>> the plugin always calculated some strange numbers.
>> same result though.
>>
>>
>> ciao
>> franky
>>
>>
>> Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 9:20:29 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> MB> 2/3" 16:9 CCD just like on your Sony :  0.3775" x 0.2123"
>>
>> MB> --
>> MB> Marc Bourbonnais
>> MB> 3D TD
>> MB> Hybride
>>
>> MB> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> MB> From: "Frank Lenhard" <franky(at)ixdream.com>
>> MB> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
>> MB> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:57 PM
>> MB> Subject: Re[2]: real world camera
>>
>>
>> MB> thanks a lot guys.
>> MB> i installed that python plugin and it seems it works nice. cant verify
>> MB> though, because i'am unable to find the dimensions of the sensor...
>> MB> sigh...
>>
>>
>> MB> ciao
>> MB> franky
>>
>>
>> MB> Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 5:51:48 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> TL>> There´s been some extensive threads on photogrammetry,
>> TL>> lens distortion and useful tools a couple of weeks back.
>>
>> TL>> From the top of my head, LaMaison has a great shader
>> TL>> to add lensdistortion (on the cost of loosing motionvectors)
>> TL>> and many people here suggested to look into Hype (for shake)
>> TL>> http://www.visualappliance.com/products/hype-shake/
>>
>> TL>> A collegue of mine has been playing with fotomodeler,
>> TL>> I myself tried the Maya>Realviz MMTrack plugin and
>> TL>> got useable results out of (purposedly) unknown footage.
>>
>> TL>> Boiling this down, I´d figure your best bet is to lend the
>> TL>> camera and lesnes a day and shoot the gridpatterns you
>> TL>> need for distortioncorrection plus some free movement,
>> TL>> fixed pans and such on a visually rich location to *extract*
>> TL>> a closely matching camera without too much effort before shoot...
>>
>> TL>> Cheers
>>
>> TL>> tim
>>
>>
>> TL>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> TL>> From: "Francois Lord" <francoislord(at)gmail.com>
>> TL>> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
>> TL>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:38 PM
>> TL>> Subject: Re: real world camera
>>
>>
>>   
>>>>> http://www.xsi-blog.com/archives/65
>>>>>
>>>>> You will need Python installed.
>>>>> http://softimage.wiki.avid.com/sdkdocs/abd457728.htm
>>>>> There is a preset in the plugin called "Video HDTV 2/3" 16:9 sensor" 
>>>>> which should
>>>>> be pretty close to what you need.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank Lenhard wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> i could swear this was covered before, but i cant find any infos in the 
>>>>>> archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a project is coming up where we will do some serious et enheancements. i 
>>>>>> know the
>>>>>> camera which will be used
>>>>>> on set and i will be there too. i would like to replicate the camera as 
>>>>>> close as
>>>>>> possible beofre the shoot,
>>>>>> so i can work out a good animatic that will match the view angles and 
>>>>>> FoV of the
>>>>>> real world.
>>>>>> the camera is a Sony DVW 970WSP,
>>>>>> http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=2&sp=11&id=79174
>>>>>> <http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=2&sp=11&id=79174>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lenses will be a Fujinon 7.8x22 and a Fujinon 4,8x10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i dont really know for sure how to replicate the camera in xsi. i know 
>>>>>> all the
>>>>>> properties of a xsi camera
>>>>>> and guess that the focal length is equal to the one that will be set on 
>>>>>> the lens,
>>>>>> but whats with the film
>>>>>> aperture? has this anything to do with the CCD chip and its size? and if 
>>>>>> so, how
>>>>>> the numbers relate to each
>>>>>> other?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks a lot folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ciao
>>>>>> franky
>>>>>>           
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