It would be nice if it supported the ABF routine
as well as the LSCM.
From:
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Stuart Hall
Sent: 18 June 2007 15:19
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Native XSI LSCM
Unwrapping
This plug-in works great!!! I can’t
believe the list is so quite in singing its praise. Everyone prefer Roadkill?
Stuart Hall
From:
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Ahmidou Lyazidi
Sent: 11 June 2007 14:51
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: Native XSI LSCM
Unwrapping
Ok, I understand now! Too
bad...
2007/6/11, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com>:
Hi Ahmidou,
The problem isn't adding another cluster as an input port, it's the
way XSI evaluates doesn't allow for restructuring just part of the UV
set and having modifications to the other part applied below the
operator. So there's no way to really develop an interactive tool like
would be ideal for this.
An option might be having two operators - one which creates the
initial UV set and a partner one which lives in the animation stack.
This way you move the pinned points in the modeling stack and XSI
shifts it all again in the animation stack - this may provide a way of
getting interactive modification of the UV set using pins.
Anyone at Soft have an idea on this?
Cheers,
Alan.
On 6/2/07, Ahmidou Lyazidi <ahmidou.xsi(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Wouldn't it be possible to add the samples cluster and hotplug them to the
> same operator that is unwrapping. With portgroups you can add unlimited
> inputs after your operator was created. But i'm just a low level scripter,
> so I can be completly wrong.
> Anyway thanks again for sharing!
>
> Ahmidou.
>
> 2007/6/1, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com>:
> > I'm not sure on the pinned stuff - it would be very useful, but the
> > XSI operator model doesn't lend itself very well to it.
> >
> > In order for it to function you'd need to create a set of UVs with it
> > (unpinned). Then use that set of UVs and create a cluster of samples.
> > From there you'd apply a second operator which takes the mesh, and
the
> > UVs and the pinning cluster and recalculates it.
> >
> > You'd need to mute your second operator, shift your pinned points,
> > then unmute the operator. Otherwise XSI will just apply moves to your
> > points after the new UVs. i.e. there's no neat way for cycling stuff
> > where it's possible in XSI.
> >
> > Perhaps a very intelligent dev somewhere could come up with a
> > suggestion for a better way of implementing it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On 6/1/07, Ahmidou Lyazidi <ahmidou.xsi(at)gmail.com
> wrote:
> > > That's cool! Thank you very much. Just to know is it planed to
add the
> pin
> > > stuff?
> > > Thanks again
> > > Ahmidou.
> > >
> > > 2007/6/1, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com
>:
> > > > Didn't I tell you all Halfy's great?
> > > > http://www.binaryiris.com/xsi/dungarees.tar.bz2
> > > >
> > > > Also anyone at Soft happen to log that bug with unfrozen
meshes and
> > > > GetClusterPropertyBuilder() or should I go fill it in?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Alan.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/1/07, Alan Jones < skyphyr(at)gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > Not that I've been let know of yet, Ahmidou. It seems
you can't even
> > > > > give windows users a gift unless you install it and
click the
> buttons
> > > > > for them ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > We're loving here at Fluid though, Halfy - so another
big thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/1/07, Ahmidou Lyazidi < ahmidou.xsi(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Did someone had some success to compile it for
windows?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > A.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2007/5/31, Philipp Oeser < philipp.oeser(at)liga01.de>:
> > > > > > > Ah, nice info!
> > > > > > > opens up a whole new range of
possibilities...
> > > > > > > [note to myself: - (1) plant a tree! (2)
build a house! (3) wrap
> > > > > > > blender's magic fluid control! :) ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanx again for the effort, halfdan/alan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Philipp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alan Jones schrieb:
> > > > > > > > I think it was also to do with dynamic
vs static linking.
> Because
> > > it's
> > > > > > > > distributed in an unlinked form the
user is linking it at
> runtime.
> > > > > > > > This means the linking is part of use,
not distribution - at
> least
> > > > > > > > that's the impression further research
gave.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alan.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 5/30/07, Halfdan Ingvarsson < hingvars(at)softimage.com >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> This is based on confusion around
the GPL "linking clause"
> which
> > > > > > > >> applies to works that
"derive" from GPL-ed software (ie. the
> > > > > > > >> "derived" software cannot
work without linking to a GPL-ed
> > > software).
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The linking clause does not apply
in this case since XSI
> doesn't
> > > > > > > >> require the plugin in order to run.
So XSI is not a
> derivative
> > > work
> > > > > > > >> of the plugin in that sense.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> This is an important distinction,
because otherwise you
> wouldn't
> > > be
> > > > > > > >> able to run opensource apps on
windows, since they require
> > > windows in
> > > > > > > >> order to work.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The LGPL removes this requirement
and is used for most, if
> not
> > > all,
> > > > > > > >> system libraries on Linux, since
closed source applications
> > > require
> > > > > > > >> them in order to run on Linux.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Alan's original impression was that
it went both ways, which
> is
> > > not
> > > > > > > >> the case
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> (I'm only using Linux here since it
represents a mixed
> GPL/LGPL
> > > > > > > >> environment that closed source
applications run on).
> > > > > > > >>
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