Re: Re[2]: Partitions and referenced models problem

["Morten Bartholdy" <xsi(at)colorshopvfx.dk>]

- in 5.11 or 6.01? I am on 5.11 and most of the referenced models with 
instances in them work fine with passes - only few don't but they still take 
long time to sort out :(

- MB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Lenhard" <franky(at)ixdream.com>
To: "Adam Seeley" <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Partitions and referenced models problem


> strange. i just did a scene with 100 characters, where about 75 of
> them where instances of reference models. all in one mother model :)
>
> no problems with partitions.
>
> i also seem to remember that in 6.02 some issues where adressed
> (regarding the bug list)
>
> ciao
> franky
>
>
> Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 1:36:56 PM, you wrote:
>
> AS> Hi Morton,
> AS>
> AS> Sad to say, but I've had exactly the same problem with my current 
> project, Instances in
> AS> Referenced Models just seem to slip out of Partitons on reload.
> AS>
> AS> Also had problems with Models within Referenced Models behaving the 
> same way.
> AS>
> AS> My solution for this was to move the Instance Master Models and 
> Instances outside the
> AS> Referenced Model and Constrain the Instances to nulls in the correct 
> positions within the
> AS> Referenced Model thereby keeping everything outside the Referenced 
> Model for the Render.
> AS>
> AS> The Model to be Instanced was still a Referenced Model, but outside 
> the main Referenced
> AS> Model.
> AS>
> AS> I guess when the scene loads, it knows where to relocate the items in 
> the Referenced Model,
> AS> THEN it creates the Instances when loaded and has no information about 
> where they should go.
> AS>
> AS> I would have poked around further for a solution but I needed to know 
> what I did was going
> AS> to be solid so used a less elegant and fussier approach.
> AS>
> AS> Pain in the Ass huh,
> AS>
> AS> Good luck,
> AS>
> AS> Adam.
> AS>
> AS> Hope the reply didn't sound too much like the Monkeys Mother (included 
> below). Feel free to
> AS> solve if anybody has the time! :)
> AS>
> AS>
> AS> The Monkey's Mother
>
> AS> ——————
>
> AS> A rope hangs over a pulley.  On one end is a weight.  Balanced on the 
> other end is a monkey
> AS> of equal weight.  The rope weighs 4oz. per foot.  The age of the 
> monkey and the age of its
> AS> mother together equal 4 years.  The weight of the monkey is as many 
> pounds as its mother is
> AS> years old.  The mother is twice as old as the monkey was when the 
> mother was half as old as
> AS> the monkey will be when the monkey is three times as old as the mother 
> was when the mother
> AS> was three times as old as the monkey.  The weight of the weight plus 
> the weight of the rope
> AS> is half as much again as the difference between twice the weight of 
> the weight and the
> AS> weight of the monkey.  How long is the rope?
>
> AS>
> AS>
> AS>
>
>
> AS>    _____
>
> AS> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On 
> Behalf Of Morten Bartholdy
> AS> Sent: 11 July 2007 10:58
> AS> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> AS> Subject: Partitions and referenced models problem
>
>
> AS> I am setting up renderpasses on a very complex scene containing many 
> referenced models with
> AS> lots of instances in them, and certain parts refuse to stay in the 
> partition I move them to.
> AS> They are located in the Background_Objects_Partition, and when moved 
> to their proper
> AS> partition I can see the result just fine in a render region. When I 
> save the scene and set
> AS> it rendering they are not rendered correctly and when I reopen the 
> scene they have moved
> AS> back in to the Background_Objects_Partition. Has anyone here 
> encountered anything similar
> AS> and can perhaps offer a workaround? Something simple like splitting a 
> render in to
> AS> individual parts and do AO, MV etc passes suddenly becomes pretty 
> painful. Oh and I am on
> AS> 5.11 QFE10 atm - 6.01 has just been to unstable for render setups.
> AS>
> AS> Morten Bartholdy
> AS> 3D & VFX Artist
>
> AS>
> AS>
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