Are the ones you're having problems with more extensively locked then
the ones that work fine? Or maybe included in more/difference scene groups?
Known bugs aside, I suspect XSI internally operates by some kind of
tagging mechanisms for grouping, and it wouldn't be too absurd if deep
locking or other grouping tags could prevent something to properly get
or inherit the exclusive group tag of a partition. I've seen behaviours
indicative of something on those lines before, and it might be worth
having a quick look into it if you have the time to.
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Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> - in 5.11 or 6.01? I am on 5.11 and most of the referenced models with
> instances in them work fine with passes - only few don't but they
> still take long time to sort out :(
>
> - MB
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Lenhard" <franky(at)ixdream.com>
> To: "Adam Seeley" <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: Partitions and referenced models problem
>
>
>> strange. i just did a scene with 100 characters, where about 75 of
>> them where instances of reference models. all in one mother model :)
>>
>> no problems with partitions.
>>
>> i also seem to remember that in 6.02 some issues where adressed
>> (regarding the bug list)
>>
>> ciao
>> franky
>>
>>
>> Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 1:36:56 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> AS> Hi Morton,
>> AS>
>> AS> Sad to say, but I've had exactly the same problem with my current
>> project, Instances in
>> AS> Referenced Models just seem to slip out of Partitons on reload.
>> AS>
>> AS> Also had problems with Models within Referenced Models behaving
>> the same way.
>> AS>
>> AS> My solution for this was to move the Instance Master Models and
>> Instances outside the
>> AS> Referenced Model and Constrain the Instances to nulls in the
>> correct positions within the
>> AS> Referenced Model thereby keeping everything outside the
>> Referenced Model for the Render.
>> AS>
>> AS> The Model to be Instanced was still a Referenced Model, but
>> outside the main Referenced
>> AS> Model.
>> AS>
>> AS> I guess when the scene loads, it knows where to relocate the
>> items in the Referenced Model,
>> AS> THEN it creates the Instances when loaded and has no information
>> about where they should go.
>> AS>
>> AS> I would have poked around further for a solution but I needed to
>> know what I did was going
>> AS> to be solid so used a less elegant and fussier approach.
>> AS>
>> AS> Pain in the Ass huh,
>> AS>
>> AS> Good luck,
>> AS>
>> AS> Adam.
>> AS>
>> AS> Hope the reply didn't sound too much like the Monkeys Mother
>> (included below). Feel free to
>> AS> solve if anybody has the time! :)
>> AS>
>> AS>
>> AS> The Monkey's Mother
>>
>> AS> ——————
>>
>> AS> A rope hangs over a pulley. On one end is a weight. Balanced on
>> the other end is a monkey
>> AS> of equal weight. The rope weighs 4oz. per foot. The age of the
>> monkey and the age of its
>> AS> mother together equal 4 years. The weight of the monkey is as
>> many pounds as its mother is
>> AS> years old. The mother is twice as old as the monkey was when the
>> mother was half as old as
>> AS> the monkey will be when the monkey is three times as old as the
>> mother was when the mother
>> AS> was three times as old as the monkey. The weight of the weight
>> plus the weight of the rope
>> AS> is half as much again as the difference between twice the weight
>> of the weight and the
>> AS> weight of the monkey. How long is the rope?
>>
>> AS>
>> AS>
>> AS>
>>
>>
>> AS> _____
>>
>> AS> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
>> Behalf Of Morten Bartholdy
>> AS> Sent: 11 July 2007 10:58
>> AS> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> AS> Subject: Partitions and referenced models problem
>>
>>
>> AS> I am setting up renderpasses on a very complex scene containing
>> many referenced models with
>> AS> lots of instances in them, and certain parts refuse to stay in
>> the partition I move them to.
>> AS> They are located in the Background_Objects_Partition, and when
>> moved to their proper
>> AS> partition I can see the result just fine in a render region. When
>> I save the scene and set
>> AS> it rendering they are not rendered correctly and when I reopen
>> the scene they have moved
>> AS> back in to the Background_Objects_Partition. Has anyone here
>> encountered anything similar
>> AS> and can perhaps offer a workaround? Something simple like
>> splitting a render in to
>> AS> individual parts and do AO, MV etc passes suddenly becomes pretty
>> painful. Oh and I am on
>> AS> 5.11 QFE10 atm - 6.01 has just been to unstable for render setups.
>> AS>
>> AS> Morten Bartholdy
>> AS> 3D & VFX Artist
>>
>> AS>
>> AS>
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