The problem is that the wiki doesn't really "teach" subjects, but
rather "discusses" them. Generally, good familiarity with scripting
and the object model is assumed. In essence the wiki is formatted more
like a reference than training material.
For a book I thought more of training material, where you get from
point A to point Z accross the entire book. Basically the entire book
would evolve around a project that includes all typical steps of a
production. The book would focus on explaining how to use scripting at
every such steps to help the project.
Cheers
Bernard
On 8/30/07, Greg Smith <greg(at)stanwinston.com> wrote:
> personally I think a online wiki where a community provides a lot of the
> content would suffice, that way when people find better ways to do
> something that referencee can be immediately updated and shared with the
> community. As a python scripter I've ran in to a lot roadblocks with the
> manuals considering that 90 percent of the examples are in vbscript or
> jscript. And of the examples that are in python, they really don't take
> advantage of working in a object model or don't leave me hanging as far
> as what one can do with a given parameter. I remember it took me a while
> to figure out how to get the file path of a pass in v6 because I had
> really no documentation to show how.
>
> So far even though the XSIwiki doesn't go very far with scripting, what
> it does have on there, had been a gem for me. It was much easier to find
> what I need there, than scrubbing through the documentation. what I
> think would be cool is since it would be that users could contribute
> tips and tricks to make more efficient scripts like in python its faster
> to join multiple string variables with a ''.join([A,B,C]) than just A +
> B + C.
>
> thats just my thoughts of it all
>
> Greg
>
> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 11:55 -0400, Bernard Lebel wrote:
> > I agree that such a book could be great. However having authored
> > tutorials myself.....
> >
> > Even if I knew deeply all the subjects you mentioned, I'm not sure I'd
> > ever want to write such a book. The XSI scripting community is so
> > small that I don't think there would be any point for the author in
> > spending so much time on such a big project.
> >
> > The problem is that you have to cover the basics very well, otherwise
> > newbies are frustrated. And then you have to offer significantly
> > advanced exercices, otherwise the intermediate/advanced users are
> > frustrated. So you end up selling very little copies, and all that
> > time spent doing that doesn't get any return. And please don't tell me
> > about doing it for the principle or the prosperity of the community,
> > my time has value to me and there is no way it's going to be
> > compensated other than by selling copies.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps an alternative could to gather several authors and create
> > something alike the programming cookbooks. That might work. Each
> > subject would be covered by a different expert. But then again, do not
> > expect any reasonable compensation for that......
> >
> >
> > My two cents
> > Bernard
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/30/07, Raffaele Scaduto-Medola <raffaele(at)inch.com> wrote:
> > > Just 2 add my two cents, since I am still struggling to train some of our
> > > TDs, and develloper, what I would really like to see a XSI Script manual.
> > > we use the online documentation as reference, but it would be really
> > > usefull to have someone write a XSI scripting book (in JScript or Python,
> > > forget VBScript ever existed) explaining with lots of examples how to
> > > object script in XSI. The categories/chapters should follow the production
> > > workflow (model, rig,layout,animate,render,utility).
> > > It would really help to have that kind of organisation in the
> > > documentation so scripting TDs could quickly find examples of how to
> > > access tools based on production workflow, and discover related one they
> > > may not know about.
> > >
> > > I also agree with Brad, on the we need something with the "how the hell
> > > did they do this factor".
> > > My two cents.
> > > Cheers
> > > RSM
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