Re: MI Generation of files

["peter boeykens" <peter_b(at)skynet.be>]

a token for this and a token for that - a token for the os your using, a 
token for working with GUI, a token for working without, a token for batch 
rendering, a token for standalone rendering, a token for universal batch 
rendering, a token for....
how much more complex can the licensing become?
If I were a bit more paranoid I'd say it's a conspiracy to punish honest 
paying customers :-{



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: MI Generation of files


> nope, they should be free as other vendors has it. I don't understand
> why we as Softimage users always have to pay more when it comes to
> mental ray.
>
> /stefan
>
>
> On 10/1/07, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
> > Recalling, I think the deal would have been a new license token purely 
> > for
> > MI file generation from the command line and that one of these tokens 
> > would
> > come with each mental ray license bought from Softimage. Seemed like a 
> > good,
> > all-round solution to me.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> > > Behalf Of Stefan Andersson
> > > Sent: 01 October 2007 08:31
> > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> > >
> > > I can only agree, and for us who is a Maya/Standalone based company
> > > it's more than a pain in the ass arse since I also try and convince
> > > the people here that XSI is a better choice :) So when I tell them
> > > that MI generation is license based they go.. "uuh?? say again?"
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I call for a vote that MI generation in Essentials and
> > > Advanced should be unlimited!! (foundation can stay as it is, you get
> > > what you pay for)
> > >
> > > Vote for free MI generation in Essentials/Advanced
> > > Yes    no
> > > [x]      [  ]      Stefan Andersson, Swiss International AB
> > >
> > >
> > > regards
> > > stefan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/1/07, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Mental ray standalone rendering of XSI scenes is a right royal pain
> > > in the
> > > > arse simply because you do need a license in order to generate the mi
> > > file
> > > > in the first place. Which means for each node in the farm you need
> > > both a
> > > > mental ray license and an XSI license. Or you have to jump through
> > > hoops
> > > > finding a way to batch up the generation of the mi files.
> > > >
> > > > Some time ago I remember talking with Dave Lajoie about opening up
> > > free mi
> > > > generation on the command line as a way of easing this bottleneck and
> > > he was
> > > > quite positive about it. Then he left softimage and it all sort of
> > > went
> > > > quiet. But I still think it needs looking at, especially now with the
> > > way
> > > > Maya and Max users seem to be drowing in mental ray licenses.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Bernard Lebel
> > > > > Sent: 30 September 2007 22:47
> > > > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, I see. To my knowledge, you need at least a batch license, as
> > > the
> > > > > mi generation is done in XSI, and there is no way to run XSI
> > > without
> > > > > such a license.[kim:-]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bernard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/30/07, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > yes but with Maya MI generation is free, so you can have as many
> > > > > > computers as you want generating MI files from Maya.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > stefan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/30/07, Bernard Lebel <3dbernard(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 9/30/07, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 1.) Would XSI be able to do the same thing?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, if I'm not mistaken only Foundation can't do mi
> > > generation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > Bernard
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