Re: MI Generation of files

["Oliver Heijmans" <oliver(at)topixfx.com>]

As far as i know from somebody that works with Subd's who made his own for 
maya
before there wasn't any.

the new mental ray 3.6, can convert and render subds from XSI / maya,
on the fly, and will do the correct conversion.. Something that couldn't be 
done before..

but i haven't tested this..

I'll ask next time i see him how you do it.

O.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: MI Generation of files


> One problem I get is when I use xsi subdivisions (actually the only
> problem at this point). I would like to export it as recommended with
> the flag (found under the "mi Archives" tab):
>
> "Use a geometry shader for subdivision surfaces"
>
> Then I get this problem when rendering.
>
> -------------------------
> LINK 0.0  error  191007: cannot load
> C:/Softimage/XSI_6.5/Application/bin/nt-x86/../subdivision.dll, The
> specified module could not be found.
> -------------------------
>
> And then nothing is rendered at all. But if I unclick that option the
> MI export takes much longer (since it tesselates it in the MI files).
> Anyone knows a way around this problem?
>
> I have a thread here about the problem
> http://forum.lamrug.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1189&sid=15cf615f472c1af6fa874237e5a5d2a7
>
> regards
> stefan andersson
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Oliver Heijmans <oliver(at)topixfx.com> wrote:
> > MI generation in maya is easy... Last company i worked we did a whole 
> > movie
> > with it, and had great tools.
> >
> > No problems,
> >
> > You can splice them per object and then put them together with "include"
> > statements..
> > With Softimage I'd like to know how you do it per object base..
> >
> > If somebody knows, please let me know.
> >
> >
> > O.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "peter boeykens" <peter_b(at)skynet.be>
> > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> >
> >
> > >a token for this and a token for that - a token for the os your using, a
> > >token for working with GUI, a token for working without, a token for 
> > >batch
> > >rendering, a token for standalone rendering, a token for universal batch
> > >rendering, a token for....
> > > how much more complex can the licensing become?
> > > If I were a bit more paranoid I'd say it's a conspiracy to punish 
> > > honest
> > > paying customers :-{
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
> > > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:48 AM
> > > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> > >
> > >
> > >> nope, they should be free as other vendors has it. I don't understand
> > >> why we as Softimage users always have to pay more when it comes to
> > >> mental ray.
> > >>
> > >> /stefan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 10/1/07, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>> Recalling, I think the deal would have been a new license token 
> > >>> purely
> > >>> for
> > >>> MI file generation from the command line and that one of these tokens
> > >>> would
> > >>> come with each mental ray license bought from Softimage. Seemed like 
> > >>> a
> > >>> good,
> > >>> all-round solution to me.
> > >>>
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> > >>> > Behalf Of Stefan Andersson
> > >>> > Sent: 01 October 2007 08:31
> > >>> > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > >>> > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I can only agree, and for us who is a Maya/Standalone based company
> > >>> > it's more than a pain in the ass arse since I also try and convince
> > >>> > the people here that XSI is a better choice :) So when I tell them
> > >>> > that MI generation is license based they go.. "uuh?? say again?"
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Anyhow, I call for a vote that MI generation in Essentials and
> > >>> > Advanced should be unlimited!! (foundation can stay as it is, you 
> > >>> > get
> > >>> > what you pay for)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Vote for free MI generation in Essentials/Advanced
> > >>> > Yes    no
> > >>> > [x]      [  ]      Stefan Andersson, Swiss International AB
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > regards
> > >>> > stefan
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On 10/1/07, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>> > > Mental ray standalone rendering of XSI scenes is a right royal 
> > >>> > > pain
> > >>> > in the
> > >>> > > arse simply because you do need a license in order to generate 
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > mi
> > >>> > file
> > >>> > > in the first place. Which means for each node in the farm you 
> > >>> > > need
> > >>> > both a
> > >>> > > mental ray license and an XSI license. Or you have to jump 
> > >>> > > through
> > >>> > hoops
> > >>> > > finding a way to batch up the generation of the mi files.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Some time ago I remember talking with Dave Lajoie about opening 
> > >>> > > up
> > >>> > free mi
> > >>> > > generation on the command line as a way of easing this bottleneck
> > >>> > > and
> > >>> > he was
> > >>> > > quite positive about it. Then he left softimage and it all sort 
> > >>> > > of
> > >>> > went
> > >>> > > quiet. But I still think it needs looking at, especially now with
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > way
> > >>> > > Maya and Max users seem to be drowing in mental ray licenses.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] 
> > >>> > > > On
> > >>> > > > Behalf Of Bernard Lebel
> > >>> > > > Sent: 30 September 2007 22:47
> > >>> > > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > >>> > > > Subject: Re: MI Generation of files
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Ah, I see. To my knowledge, you need at least a batch license, 
> > >>> > > > as
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > > mi generation is done in XSI, and there is no way to run XSI
> > >>> > without
> > >>> > > > such a license.[kim:-]
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Bernard
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On 9/30/07, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > yes but with Maya MI generation is free, so you can have as 
> > >>> > > > > many
> > >>> > > > > computers as you want generating MI files from Maya.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > regards
> > >>> > > > > stefan
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On 9/30/07, Bernard Lebel <3dbernard(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > On 9/30/07, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > 1.) Would XSI be able to do the same thing?
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Yes, if I'm not mistaken only Foundation can't do mi
> > >>> > generation.
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Cheers
> > >>> > > > > > Bernard
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