Re: xsi 6.x and envelopes ( severe issue)

["Mikko Ronkainen" <noratio(at)kolumbus.fi>]

Manny,
this 6.0x bone  popping issue were discussed at this list before. After  
reading about it I wrote to support and got qfe that solved it. It was  
related to some specific parameters being keyed, after you couldn't pose  
the character. I don't use the standard ik/fk switch so it was not that.
check:
UDEV00239183: Loosing previous poses when moving controls
and at this list:
anoying keying setting / bug in 6.02

I really don't mind being wrong, but sounds awfully familiar to me.

Cheers
Mikko

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:18:30 +0300, Manny Papamanos  
<mpapama(at)Softimage.COM> wrote:

> Adam, you indicated "I wonder if it's related to the fact that as of 6.0
> and later, in order to reliably key a character using bone hierarchies,
> I need to use autokey".
> Adam, there shouldn't be a need to animate in "auto", I personally hate
> using "auto key" and you are not the first to tell me this. The popping
> probably occurs because the ik/fk slider may be set to the ik side and
> you are animating the arms in fk forcing the chain to "reset" itself to
> the res plain. I'd like to take a closer look and put an end to this
> issue once and for all, can you call me at support.
> Also, from my tests, this can be resolved by selecting all bones with
> the "bones" filter, click ctrl+r and set the multi-ppg slider to the FK
> side.
>
>
> Manny Papamanos
> XSI SPECIALIST AT SOFTIMAGE HEADQUARTERS
> www.finalgathering.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
> Of Julien Stiegler
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:57 AM
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: xsi 6.x and envelopes ( severe issue)
>
> I wonder if this problem with soft IK is related
>
> http://www.xsi-blog.com/archives/109
>
> Fernando Navarro wrote:
>
> >  Not sure if it's related but I have issues with custom operators
> > being evaluated but not updating (or wrongly updating) the geometry.
> > Reading a scene containing these operators can reproduce it 90% of the
> > times. This is something that happens in 6.x but not in 5.11. It has
> > been reported and probably will know something in a few days.
> >
> >  Cheers
> >     Fernando
> >
> >
> > On 10/19/07, Bradley Gabe <withanar(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I've finished many envelopes in 6.02 and haven't experienced the
> issues you
> > > are talking about. Just thinking about it a bit, the bahvior you are
> > > describing is what happens if your envelope data gets randomized where
> > > vertex points are no longer associated with their proper deformers or
> static
> > > kinestates. I *have* seen this behavior happen when attempting to
> directly
> > > copy envelope weight arrays from one rig to another using the Object
> Model.
> > > -Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/18/07, Adam Sale <adamsale(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > anyone had any bizarre envelope behavior with xsi 6.02?
> > > > at odd times, when i open a scene with an enveloped character, and
> > > manipulate the envelope
> > >
> > >
> > > > by rotating bones, or moving an effector or control, the envelope
> goes
> > > >
> > > ballistic. I mean really bad.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've never seen this behavior in ANY version of XSI prior to 6. Its
> > > something completely new in my experience..
> > >
> > >
> > > > I wonder if its related to the fact that as of 6.0 and later, in
> order to
> > > >
> > > reliably key a character using bone hierarchies, I need to use
> autokey. If I
> > > try to pose a character first and then key after the pose is finished,
> often
> > > times, the bones, pop, or jump to unpredictable locations or angles..
> > >
> > >
> > > > Something recursive has crept into the chain tools in XSI, and I
> think as
> > > >
> > > a software whose strength lies in these areas, they absolutely need to
> be
> > > addressed in very short order...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Its driving me crazy...
> > > >
> > > > not only  limited to any rig I've made..
> > > > happens to jaiqua and other rigs as well.
> > > > and doesn't happen every time.. just every now and then.
> > > >
> > > > anyone else come across this?
> > > >
> > > > Adam
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