All the best!
Thomas Helzle
On Dec 15, 2007 2:42 PM, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
> Fine, don't try it then. I was only trying to be helpful.
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On
> Behalf Of *Thomas Helzle
> *Sent:* 15 December 2007 13:05
>
> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> *Subject:* Re: Regular crashes with satellite.
>
>
>
> Sorry, with 2 Gig installed and 300 to 600 MB used on rendering, you think
> this is the problem?
> And it crashes AFTER rendering - about 2-5 minutes later.
> If it works with batch rendering, I learn just that it works with batch
> rendering, but since batch stops after my one-frame-renderings anyway, I
> don't really learn anything about that weird crash issue, do I?
> I may try it like so many other things on my list, but since visual
> feedback sometimes is critical for me as a chance to see if I made an error
> and stop rendering immediately, it isn't a "solution" I would prefer over
> XSI crashing.
>
> Again, I have NO crashes on rendering. I don't render sequences (but it is
> the same with sequences - renders fine, afterwards crashes), just single
> images, change an image, render again (well, I don't since it crashes).
>
> It happens with EVERY scene I tried so far that isn*t just a sphere with a
> phong in PAL.
>
> Anybody actually using satellite at all?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Helzle
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 1:25 PM, kim aldis < xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Everything gets a bit weird when memory approaches its limits so who knows
> but you've nothing to lose by trying. And then there's no render window in
> standalone, that could also be part of the problem.
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On
> Behalf Of *Thomas Helzle
> *Sent:* 15 December 2007 12:14
>
>
> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> *Subject:* Re: Regular crashes with satellite.
>
>
>
> Sure, I understand the profit of bat rendering, but I don't think this is
> about memory at all, otherwise it would give problems when I start rendering
> or while doing it, no? I don't even come near my available memory limits.
> It would work as a workaround, but restarting XSI does the same.
> And since I have to create one scene after the other, I would need to keep
> XSI open anyway - no real benefit there IMO?
> I may try it just out of curiosity though :-)
>
> But I was more looking for feedback from people who maybe encountered the
> same and can help nail that problem down so it can be fixed by Softimage it
> if is a bug.
>
> I have read so often that satellite is not so stable, but since it fits my
> needs perfectly, I would prefer it being fixed instead of just avoiding it.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Thomas Helzle
>
> On Dec 15, 2007 12:43 PM, kim aldis <xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Oh yes. Think of all the memory you're freeing up by not using a gui.
> There's a plugin on my site makes .bat files for you.
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On
> Behalf Of *Thomas Helzle
> *Sent:* 15 December 2007 10:05
> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> *Subject:* Re: Regular crashes with satellite.
>
>
>
> No. Would that help?
>
> On Dec 14, 2007 10:46 PM, Moloney, Ciaran <cmoloney(at)nybg.org> wrote:
>
> It sounds like you're launching your renders in the app. Have you tried to
> render from the command line?
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Thomas Helzle" <thomashel...(at)gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 14, 1:57 pm
> Subject: Regular crashes with satellite.
> To: XSI Mailing List Archive
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I thought I best ask here if anybody had a similar problem and maybe found
> a
> cure:
>
> I render lots of printsize images of bottles and other design objects for
> a
> design agency. I need to render them with satellite
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jesus Christ Kim, don't be so picky.<br>I really respect your experience, but often when I read your responses, I wonder if you really reply to what people ask or just see some trigger-words in a mail and shout out a pre-made reply. ;-)
<br><br>Very often I don't find your replys helpful at all. Very often I get the impression that you defend what's there instead of trying to improve it or that you try to solve a problem that isn't the current focus.
<br><br>I know very well that I am just as weird in your and some other peoples view. That is fine with me.<br><br>From past experiences, I guess we two are incompatible. <br>I can live with that. You don't like my reactions, I don't like yours, but maybe just ignore me in the future, would you? I will try to ignore you as well, that way we should get along just fine.
<br><br>All the best!<br><br>Thomas Helzle<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 15, 2007 2:42 PM, kim aldis <<a href="mailto:xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk">xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Fine, don't try it then. I was only trying to be helpful.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;">
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Helzle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2007 13:05<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">XSI(at)Softimage.COM</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Regular crashes with satellite.</div></div></span></p>
</div>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<p> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Sorry, with 2 Gig installed and
300 to 600 MB used on rendering, you think this is the problem?<br>
And it crashes AFTER rendering - about 2-5 minutes later.<br>
If it works with batch rendering, I learn just that it works with batch
rendering, but since batch stops after my one-frame-renderings anyway, I don't
really learn anything about that weird crash issue, do I? <br>
I may try it like so many other things on my list, but since visual feedback
sometimes is critical for me as a chance to see if I made an error and stop
rendering immediately, it isn't a "solution" I would prefer over XSI
crashing. <br>
<br>
Again, I have NO crashes on rendering. I don't render sequences (but it is the
same with sequences - renders fine, afterwards crashes), just single images,
change an image, render again (well, I don't since it crashes). <br>
<br>
It happens with EVERY scene I tried so far that isn*t just a sphere with a
phong in PAL.<br>
<br>
Anybody actually using satellite at all?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Thomas Helzle</p>
<div>
<p>On Dec 15, 2007 1:25 PM, kim aldis < <a href="mailto:xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk" target="_blank">xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Everything gets a bit weird
when memory approaches its limits so who knows but you've nothing to lose by
trying. And then there's no render window in standalone, that could also be
part of the problem.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;">
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Helzle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2007 12:14</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">XSI(at)Softimage.COM</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Regular crashes with satellite.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Sure, I understand the profit of bat rendering,
but I don't think this is about memory at all, otherwise it would give problems
when I start rendering or while doing it, no? I don't even come near my
available memory limits. <br>
It would work as a workaround, but restarting XSI does the same.<br>
And since I have to create one scene after the other, I would need to keep XSI
open anyway - no real benefit there IMO?<br>
I may try it just out of curiosity though :-) <br>
<br>
But I was more looking for feedback from people who maybe encountered the same
and can help nail that problem down so it can be fixed by Softimage it if is a
bug.<br>
<br>
I have read so often that satellite is not so stable, but since it fits my
needs perfectly, I would prefer it being fixed instead of just avoiding it. <br>
<br>
Thanks !<br>
<br>
Thomas Helzle</p>
<div>
<p>On Dec 15, 2007 12:43 PM, kim aldis <<a href="mailto:xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk" target="_blank">xsi(at)kim-aldis.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Oh yes. Think of all the memory
you're freeing up by not using a gui. There's a plugin on my site makes .bat
files for you.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;">
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Helzle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2007 10:05<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM" target="_blank">XSI(at)Softimage.COM</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Regular crashes with satellite.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">No. Would that help?</p>
<div>
<p>On Dec 14, 2007 10:46 PM, Moloney, Ciaran <<a href="mailto:cmoloney(at)nybg.org" target="_blank">cmoloney(at)nybg.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">It sounds like you're launching your renders
in the app. Have you tried to render from the command line?</span> </p>
<div>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">---------- Forwarded message ----------</span>
<br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">From: "Thomas Helzle" <<a href="mailto:thomashel...(at)gmail.com" target="_blank">thomashel...(at)gmail.com</a>></span>
<br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">Date: Dec 14, 1:57 pm</span> <br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Regular crashes with satellite.</span> <br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">To: XSI Mailing List Archive</span> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi,</span> </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I thought I best ask here if anybody had a
similar problem and maybe found a</span> <br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">cure:</span> </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I render lots of printsize images of bottles
and other design objects for a</span> <br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt;">design agency. I need to render them with
satellite</span> </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p> </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p> </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p> </p>
</div></div></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br>
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