THANKS guys!
I hadnt thought about lots of these things... I knew it had been discussed before, and I wondered if there was any outcome!
Thanks Ludo and Bernard...
Ludo, my scenes are TOTALLY tidy.. no miscellaneous sharings.. lol ;)
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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Bernard Lebel
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:41 PM
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: "super delete"
My experience with deletion is that there seem to be 3 major factors
that affect it:
1- visibility. The more visibility overrides there are (through node,
groups, layers and partitions), the longer it takes to delete. A scene
that does not override object visibility in any way will allow faster
deletion.
2- sheer number of objects in the scene. Deleting the same amount of
objects, with the same visibility settings, takes longer in a scene
with higher number of objects.
3- action sources. I found that when I had two scenes that were almost
identical. However, in the first one it would take 3 minutes to
branch-delete a character, while in the other one it would take 6
minutes. I found out that the more action sources you have, the longer
it takes. The scenes that took 6 minutes had a lot more action
sources. This brought me to write a script that when the animator was
"releasing" his scenes (meaning, it was flagged as completed until
corrections or approval), it would find all unused action sources and
delete them. Things became somewhat faster afterward.
There is another factor that can make a difference: how is the
Explorer's sorting parameter set to. Set to no sorting deletes the
fastest, alphabetical comes next, then alphabetical + order of
creation. If the explorer is not visible it can even be faster,
although do not expect huge improvements. Sometimes I would maximize a
render tree before deleting something. It helped only by a tiny bit. I
suspect the viewport redraw or other interface refresh considerations
play a role into deletion performance.
Cheers
Bernard
On Feb 9, 2008 12:05 PM, Ludovick W. Michaud <ludo(at)janimation.com> wrote:
> yeah sorry english no such thing,
>
> Setting the undo to 0 like Guillaume suggests will help a fraction of
> your two minutes. But it won't make it a super duper delete.
> I do believe that there was even talk about a super delete specifically
> for A big company but that never happened either.
>
> My take is that if you want a super delete all is the following.
> It takes 40 sec to start the app, right?
> Well then I would kill xsi process through pskill or task manager and
> restart it instead of deleting for new scene if it really takes 2 min to
> delete your scene.
> Of course if you are looking into deleting a simple character in a
> bigger scene. Try and see what the character is sharing with the scene.
>
> For instance, material library, make sure each character use their own
> personal library and that no other object in the scene uses those
> materials belonging to the character. Same for image clip, animation
> clip, environment setup (RBD) and so on so forth.
>
> Won't still make it super, but you might be able to reduce the delete
> from 2 min to 1 min.
>
> Hope those little trick will help your final delete.
>
> Ludo
>
> *Ludovick William Michaud
> * Janimation Sr. Technical/Creative Director
>
>
> Bernard Lebel was chatting on 2/8/2008 2:21 PM:
> > Maybe it has changed, but in 5.11 this never saved me any amount of
> > time with deletion. Perhaps it was due to other factors though.
> >
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2008 1:32 PM, Guillaume Laferrière
> > <Guillaume_Laferriere(at)softimage.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You can turn off undo/redo by Setting the Undo Level Preference to 0.
> >>
> >> SetValue "preferences.General.undo", 0
> >> Delete your objects then set the preference back to its original value.
> >>
> >> Guillaume
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> >> steven parish (NY)
> >> Posted At: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:26 PM
> >> Posted To: xsi
> >> Conversation: "super delete"
> >> Subject: "super delete"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I remember talking about this a while back, I couldnt find the thread or an
> >> answer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you delete objects in XSI without needing it to prepare for an
> >> '"undelete"? It can take 2 mins + with some heavy scenes..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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