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I checked back on the Adobe homepage for Photoshop CS3ext:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshopextended/pdfs/photoshopex_datasheet.pdf
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3D compositing and texture editing
Easily render and incorporate rich 3D content
into your 2D composites—even edit existing
textures on 3D models and immediately see
the results. Photoshop Extended supports
common 3D interchange formats, including
3DS, OBJ, U3D, KMZ, and COLLADA, so you
can import, view, and interact with most
3D models.
Enhanced Vanishing Point with 3D support
Edit in perspective on multiple surfaces—
even those connected at angles other than
90 degrees—with the enhanced Vanishing
Point, which also lets you measure in
perspective; wrap graphics, images, and text
around multiple planes; and output 2D planes
as 3D models.
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Given the above, projecting expectations into
futur versions, there is a chance similar or
even enhanced functionality (>*.fbx) will appear
in upcoming versions of Photoshop, maybe AfterEffects...
Cheers
tim
Tim Leydecker wrote:
> I agree. Photoshop - Collada - GO GO GO!
Wait.
I only have CS2 here, isn´t Photoshop CS3 allready
able to import Collada (>*.obj) files?
I can´t remember. The open CS3 beta had *.obj I/O,
and I *think* I remember reading something about Collada.
AE 8 doesn´t have it afaik (don´t have AE 8 either, here).
But maybe with AE 9 it´s planned with in?
Cheers
tim
Helge Mathee wrote:
I agree. Photoshop - Collada - GO GO GO!
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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
Sent: March 27, 2008 11:19 AM
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: After Effects and Xsi Again
How about filing a *.fbx feature request with Adobe?
After brooding about it, imho, it´d be most desireable to have
Photoshop and AE understand *.fbx (crosswalk).
Photoshop allready has *.obj handling, limited, quite quirky
implementation but this at least signals they allready got requests or
stumbled about the idea themselves.
The advantage of Crosswalk/Collada would be that this also allows to
interface with other compositing apps, all sorts of 3D apps and maybe
even some gameengines.
*that would be really cool*
Cheers
tim
Kris Rivel wrote:
I don't care who the heck makes it. 3rd party would be fine and I'd
be willing to pay for it too. I'm just saying I want better AE
import/export tools. I agree; it may not be a great idea to have
Soft invest time and money into this on their end. But the fact of
the matter is that AE is an indispensable tool. Its by far the
dominant choice when doing motion graphics and it would just be nice
to not have to rely on and old script which doesn't usually work. No
offense to the scripts author, its better than nothing and it does
work sometimes. Its just tied to a specific frame rate and usually
produces errors or requires a lot of tweaking to get everything to
match.
Kris
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsilist(at)googlemail.com> wrote:
I don't know if it's a special talent not to read previous mails and
jumping to answering them, or if it's just some cosmic flux...
In regards to:
"BTW please show me any other "compositor", that can match AE in
ease of use and production speed in ANY motion graphics project"
re-read the part that says " all make it a good editorial and
mograph 300$ software" please. It's excellent for that, and that alone.
As for "taking those 10 minutes" it was my personal wish that Soft
wouldn't spend even that much on just considering the idea, but
nowhere it's said that it would take that much, quite the opposite
instead.
This is exactly the kind of things you leave to plug-ins and don't
dump on core developers who have much more important things to do,
not to mention what a pain in the ass of a feature it is to manage.
C4D is the only exception to this rule because cad imports and
re-renderings and mograph represent well over half their userbase,
so it's not that valid of an example as doing otherwise would cost
them a good chunk of userbase. It's like saying motionbuilder
handles mocap files better, of course it does, it's all people use
it for it'd be pretty embarassing if it didn't.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM, pingo van der brinkloev <
xsilist(at)comxnet.dk> wrote:
I'm not gonna battle compositors like Nuke or Fusion and whatnot,
which I believe anytime will be not even comparable to AE for
Bigtime FX shots.
But for what I do I use Aftereffects all the time. And think an
XSItoAFX button it's a pretty small "whish" to have. It doesn't
need to do much more than Helges script does, but it really would
be a nice internal feature.
BTW please show me any other "compositor", that can match AE in
ease of use and production speed in ANY motion graphics project.
- That's a challenge, I would seriously be interested to know if
there's something out there worth a look.
C4D and AE work extremely well together (it can also export to some
other highend packages). C4D made Mograph which is integrated and
they are definitely selling more copies of their software because
of these two factors.
- I see more and more of these posts on this list containing the
words Cinema4d, Motion Graphics, AfterEffects... Oh and Houdini.
And what's funny is that they're all about other software and stuff
that XSI can't do. It's interesting.
I agree with David. And I think Soft should use those 10 minutes.
cheers!
On 27/03/2008, at 13.21, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
It's also guaranteed headache for Soft when adobe releases a new
AFX version while they're in a dec cycle with other priorities, not
to mention a feature that's only remotely useful for a small
percentage of the userbase, and indispensible for none.
It would require a developer to spend valuable time dealing with
another app that needs to be maintained and updated and learning
things that really aren't that important to XSI as an actual 3D app.
Why don't you ask Adobe to start releasing plugins for 3D
softwares? :)
and what "across platforms"?
AFX only runs on win32 of all the platforms xsi works on.
If there is one feature I really don't want to see Soft spending
even 10 minutes on, it's one that supports a PoS, overrated,
overpriced and overused application that shouldn't even be on the
market in first place, let alone have further diffusion supported.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, André Adam <a_adam(at)49games.de>
wrote:
A native solution is a guarantee that the feature is available
across all platforms and, in case of new releases, properly
maintained.
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